Taylor Swift Unlocks 'Double Meaning' in Fan-Favorite Lyrics During Rare Radio Chat
Taylor Swift made a recent appearance on BOB 94.9 FM to discuss "I Knew It, I Knew You," her new song for Toy Story 5. She revealed insights into songwriting, the double meanings within her lyrics, and her enduring ties to her country music origins. The interview also touched on her album releases and future plans.
Taylor Swift recently made an appearance on BOB 94.9 FM out of Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, during an “iHeartCountry House Party” on Saturday, September 5th. The unexpected radio event focused on her return to country airplay this summer with “I Knew It, I Knew You,” an original song she penned for the film Toy Story 5. The station’s location, approximately an hour west of Swift’s childhood home in Wyomissing, added a nostalgic touch to her appearance, reflecting her journey from Pennsylvania to Nashville to launch her country career.
Despite the station announcing a 7 p.m. ET start, Swift’s voice was not aired until around 7:45 p.m., with Q&A clips remaining sparse until close to 10 p.m. The 45-minute lead-up to her segment featured a modern country playlist, including tracks like Morgan Wallen & Post Malone’s “I Ain’t Comin’ Back,” Lainey Wilson feat. John Mayer’s “Phone, Keys, Wallet,” Kip Moore’s “Somethin’ Bout a Truck,” and Russell Dickerson’s “Worth Your Wild.” Eventually, “I Knew It, I Knew You” received airplay, followed by Cole Swindell’s “Single Saturday Night,” Thomas Rhett’s “After All the Bars Are Closed,” and a classic Swift track, “Teardrops on My Guitar.”
During her Q&A, Swift spoke about her contribution to the Toy Story 5 soundtrack, emphasizing the beloved film franchise’s “legacy” musical landscape. She expressed admiration for Randy Newman’s craft, stating, “it has a sonic world that Randy Newman has crafted so beautifully.” Swift was pleased to share that Newman, the creator of “You’ve Got a Friend in Me,” approved of her song, telling her “he likes it, which is really all I need to know.”
Later in the evening, Swift, now two decades into her career, offered valuable insight into successful songwriting sessions. She highlighted the importance of one's energy and attitude, explaining, “One thing I’ve learned over the many years of studio sessions and writing sessions and working with people collaboratively is your energy and attitude you bring into the room can affect absolutely everything about the day.” She cautioned that a negative demeanor can be contagious and advised, “Be enthusiastic about being able to be making art every day that you can make art.”
Among the most intriguing revelations for “Swifties” and lyric enthusiasts was Swift’s disclosure that she intentionally crafted the lyrics of “I Knew It, I Knew You” to support dual interpretations. “I love that the lyrics of this song are really being delved into by the fans. There are several lyrics that have more than one meaning to them,” Swift commented. She explained that with limited time in a song to summarize an entire film, incorporating double meanings helps convey depth.
Swift provided specific examples from the song’s opening lines: “I knew you through the daze of the blades of the grass in summer/ Parachutes for the free fall of being younger.” She detailed how the word “daze,” spelled ‘d-a-z-e,’ could also be perceived as “days” (‘d-a-y-s’), reflecting a blurry, beautiful childhood memory. The phrase “blades of the grass in summer” not only evokes childhood play and imagination but also subtly references the toys’ perspective, seeing only up to the height of grass blades. Similarly, “Parachutes for the free fall of being younger” refers both to the actual parachute army toys in Toy Story and symbolically to someone who aids personal growth and softens life’s challenges.
The inspiration for “I Knew It, I Knew You” stemmed from an early screening of Toy Story 5, where Swift was particularly drawn to the character Jessie, observing her “going through a full-circle moment.” She also connected the song’s themes to “a lot of reunions of old friends, seeing people that you haven’t seen in a while, and kind of forgiving past heartbreak, or whatever, and kind of healing that within yourself.”
Swift recently reaffirmed her enduring connection to her country roots in an August 18th conversation with Recording Academy CEO Harvey Mason Jr. at the Grammy Museum. She expressed increasing loyalty to the individuals who shaped her as an artist and writer, stating, “The further along this path I get, I want to honor them more and more, and I feel more and more tied and more loyal to them.” During the event, which focused on her songwriting, Swift performed an acoustic mashup on piano of “I Knew It, I Knew You,” “August,” and “All Too Well,” creating a memorable moment reminiscent of a mid-to-late 2024 Eras Tour performance.
Reflecting on her discography, Swift’s most recent original, full-length studio album was 2025’s pop collection The Life of a Showgirl, which spent 12 weeks at No. 1 on the Billboard 200. Her upcoming original, full-length studio album, which she has yet to announce, will mark the 13th of her career, not including her successful series of re-recorded albums, the four “Taylor’s Version” releases she issued prior to obtaining ownership of her masters last year.