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Patrick Wilson on 'Millers in Marriage' and Why Two 'Aquaman' Movies Were Enough: 'I Don't Know Where the Story Would Go'

Published 3 weeks ago6 minute read

Patrick Wilson is getting ready to return to musical theater. Not only is he a producer of the new “Lost Boys,” but he’s actively pursuing landing a starring role on the stage.

“I definitely want to figure that out in the next two years,” Wilson says on the latest episode of the “Just for Variety” podcast.

Before Wilson was a bonafide movie and television star, he earned two Tony nominations for his work in “The Full Monty” and “Oklahoma!” in the early aughts. He also starred in Joel Schumacher’s big screen adaptation of Andrew Lloyd Weber’s “The Phantom of the Opera” opposite Emmy Rossum and Gerard Butler in 2004.

In the two decades following, he starred in non-musical fare like the “Insidious” and “Conjuring” horror franchises and played Orm in the “Aquaman” movies.

His latest film is “Millers in Marriage.” Written and directed by Edwards Burns, the indie drama centers around three siblings – Burns, Julianna Margulies and Gretchen Mol – struggling with failing marriages and new romances. Wilson plays Scott, Eve’s (Mol) alcoholic and clearly mentally abusive music manager husband.

“Everybody’s roughly in their 50s on either side of it and dealing with who you are as you approach an empty nest when you don’t have your kids. … That can either enhance a marriage or break it apart, as we all know,” Wilson says on today’s episode of the “Just for Variety” podcast. “It examines all these people in different points of their life and the jealousy and the failures and the resentment and the joy and the love and the loss and where that all fits in.”

The movie marks a reunion for Wilson and Burns. “When we did our first film together, I think our kids were tiny, tiny, tiny. They’re now in college,” says Wilson, who shares two children with his wife of 20 years. “The first movie that we did together, ‘Purple Violets,’ was the first film ever sold on iTunes.”

This Q&A has been edited for length and clarity. You can listen to the full conversation on “Just for Variety with Marc Malkin” above or wherever you find your favorite podcasts.

Last year, my wife threw a really great party for me. I’m at the gym almost five days a week. Fifty for me is during the workout, I feel like I’m a 25, 30, and then I feel like I’m about 70 at the end of the workout. Fifty is post-workout going, “Wow, I am really wrecked.” But while I’m in it, I still feel like a kid. That’s how I am at work. I go for it. I will do every single stunt and thing that I can. I just may feel it tomorrow a lot worse than the guy who’s 30. I feel like each year I try to keep pushing into new territory, whether it was directing a couple years ago and more producing now too. The fire for acting certainly hasn’t gone, but I’m still moving forward. Maybe at 60, I’ll start to chill out, but that’s not me yet.

I feel like our generation, we’re defining who our 50s are now. I remember being 40 and having someone go, “You look really good for your age.” You’re like, “What am I supposed to look like?” No one even says that now. Well, that’s not true. But now you’re over that. You are 50. Wow. Really? What do you do? I mean, I don’t know. I don’t know. I guess what’s weird, I don’t know if you do this, but you look back at when your parents were your age.

I’m closer than I have been in probably 20 years. I’m producing “The Lost Boys,” but I’m not in that. It’s just trying to find the time and the show. It’s funny because it’s back to our conversation about what 50-year-old actors, what they want to do. I had a very passionate conversation with all my reps of like, “Listen, I love singing. I can still sing and knowing it’s a muscle like anything else. I don’t know that I’ve got more than 10 to 15 years of really, really singing.” I want to sing. It’s fine, it’s cool, but just biology. I don’t want to get to a spot where, and no disrespect to people who do this, but I’m just the dad in a musical and I have one song. That isn’t of no interest to me whatsoever. So, it’s trying to find where I fit in. I did a workshop of a show last week, “Big Fish.” Looking at that, is there a way to do that? There’s another show that I workshopped for a few years, so I’m trying to find that.

I would’ve loved Valjean [from “Les Misérables”]. I guess I still could. I just don’t know where or how. The movie is awesome. Fifteen years ago, I was really close and flew to London to audition for a revival of “Jesus Christ Superstar.” I just blew the audition and I couldn’t sing it then. Jesus died when he was 33 so that ship has sailed.

I absolutely loved doing that movie. Now you’ll meet women that are like 35 and certainly over 30 and saying, “I watched that as a kid.” You’re like, “God, was it that long?” Again, back to feeling old, but you are like, “Yeah, yeah, over 20 years ago. Really?” I told this to James Wan, I actually thought there’s been so many different versions of that movie, but if you think about it as just an IP, just humor me for a second.

Movies don’t need to be remade for the sake of being remade. This is a question for the room, but could you do a proper Lon Chaney-like horror movie version, but with the musical? It wasn’t really our vibe, but could you? I don’t know. The answer is I don’t know.

Was I hoping it would be more? I don’t think so. I mean, I say this as a guy who’s done several “Insidious” movies, several “Conjurings,” a couple “Aquaman.” It’s not like there’s a stigma to me against sequels. It’s just when you look at the structure of Orm — bad guy in the first one, basically a good guy in the second one — I don’t know where else he goes. I wasn’t signed on for a third. There was no frustration. I don’t know where the story would go. I wouldn’t be opposed to it. We had a great time shooting the second one. I had the best time. I feel really fortunate to have my two forays into superheroes be these bizarre characters of Night Owl Two [in “Watchmen”] and Ocean Master. It’s strange and odd and weird, and I dig that. I’m not going to lie. So, I’m happy with that ship sailing.

Would I go back to it? I mean, if it’s goo. Who’s directing it? What’s the story? He’s such an odd character. I don’t know where you just drop him in. It’s so strange to me. Also, they have taken the DC Universe in a whole different way. We had a good run. It’s okay. So, there’s not one ounce of, “Is there anything?” I would totally play again if it’s worth it, but I just don’t know how.

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